Appeasement



For several days, I've been reflecting on the term "appeasement" as it is being used by the Bush and McCain crowds in an attempt to justify further interventions in, say, Iran. This term comes into the political lexicon owing to what, in hindsight, proved to be errors on the part of British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain in his negotiations with German Chancellor Adolf Hitler in the late 1930s.

Chamberlain agreed with Hitler that there were significant numbers of German speaking persons living in the Sudetenland area of then-Czechoslovakia. So, Chamberlain agreed that Germany could take the Sudetenland. When Hitler then invaded and seized the rest of Czechoslovakia, Chamberlain felt betrayed by Hitler, who had vastly overstepped the terms of the agreement.

Later, Chamberlain's policy was condemned as appeasement. Appeasement was defined by the authors of the 1940 book _Guilty Men_ as the decision to give up small nations to Hitler's war machine in the forlorn expectation that Hitler wouldn't also seize big countries, like Poland. Chamberlain was able to survive that invasion, but was forced to resign when Hitler invaded the Netherlands, Belgium, and France in May 1940.

But, who has been given approval by the international community to invade countries? Not Iran. Not Iraq. The United States war machine was appeased by the United Nations, the British, and many other nations in 2001 when, rather fatuously, it claimed that invading the least prosperous country in the world, with the least organized military apparatus, Afghanistan, was necessary to retaliate for the 11-September-2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

Of course, the reality is that the nationality of most of the identified hijackers was Saudi Arabian. The USA did not opt to invade Saudi Arabia - perhaps because it already has extensive troops and bases there, perhaps because the Bush White House is on kissing terms with the Saudi royal family - but, rather, made the extraordinary claim that the Taliban government of Afghanistan was harboring the al Qaeda network and Osama bin Laden. Seven years later, bin Laden is still at large, and the occupation of Afghanistan continues to be a disaster on the ground.

It was appeasement to allow Bush to invade Afghanistan, just as it was appeasement to allow Hitler to occupy the Sudetenland. It was appeasement to allow Bush to invade Iraq - a country with no connection to the 11-Sep-2001 events, with no weapons of mass destruction, and suffering from a dozen years of economic sanctions. Iraq, when it was invaded, had a tiny military which promptly surrendered or fled. It had no air force. It had no navy. Most of all, it had no missiles or aircraft capable of even threatening the United States with conventional weapons, let alone nuclear, chemical, or biological ones.

Obviously, appeasement doesn't work. Bush now wants to invade Iran, which may be likened to Poland or France in our example. Other nations have said that they would regard an invasion of Iran as a cause for war with the United States. The question is whether our contemporary Hitler is going to go ahead with an invasion of Iran, anyway. The international community has emasculated itself by appeasing Bush in Afghanistan and in Iraq. I won't neglect to mention the appeasement of Bush by allowing his Ethiopian proxies to invade Somalia.

The problem with all these conflicts, in Somalia, in Iraq, and in Afghanistan is that occupying other countries has not brought the criminals of 11-Sep-2001 to justice. Occupying other countries has weakened the USA, exacerbated monetary inflation, put American tax dollars to work building infrastructure in Iraq while levees, dams, and bridges in the USA have been collapsing, and has made the USA the enemy of freedom all over the world - something we were getting away from after learning the lessons of Vietnam.

I believe that the Boston Tea Party should make a non-interventionist foreign policy, such as Ron Paul outlines in his book _Revolution: A Manifesto_ the centerpiece of our party's program, and the top plank in that document.

And, I would go further than simply opposing the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq by USA troops and the occupation of Somalia by American proxies. I would also call for ending the occupation by USA troops of Germany and Japan, which are peaceful places, as well as the ending of the occupation of the Korean peninsula by USA troops which should be replaced by South Koreans - more than wealthy enough to defend their own territory.

It is time to close down all the overseas bases of the United States and bring all the troops home. Our strategic aircraft, submarines, and navy can meet any challenge, anywhere in the world, from existing USA territories. The allies of the USA in NATO, SEATO, and other treaty organizations can defend their own territories and protect American shipping interests.

The time to be the world's policeman has ended. It is time to tend to our own homes and gardens. The awful stink of corruption, of death, of mutilation, in short of war, must be brought to a swift end now.

Appeasement???

Appeasement? Who ever authored this article is just a Bush hater. The Taliban consists of many nationals. They had their home base in Afghanistan so after 9/11/01 we kicked their butts. Iraq gave the U.N. the middle finger on all terms laid out after the first Gulf war. The United States was the only country that had the gonads to take action and gave fair warning before invading. No other country except the Brits and Australia helped. Iran - - President Bush doesn't want to invade that country and never stated so. He stated "all options are on the table". It will be hell to see in the future when Iran shoots a few nuclear warheads towards countries it hates because the U.N. and the wimpy Euorpean countries didn't and couldn't stop their program which where for "peaceful purposes." I do agree that the U.S. should close down the bases in Japan, South Korea, Germany and let those A-holes fend for themselves. They hate the U.S. anyways. I know! I spent 30 years in the military and a lot of time in those anti-American countries. They are not our friends. I also agree with the author's following statement "The time to be the world's policeman has ended. It is time to tend to our own homes and gardens."

Appeasement??

President Bush doesn't want to invade that country and never stated so. He stated "all options are on the table".

Do you really believe that? I suggest that you check out and download the following policy paper...while it lays out possible consequences of an attack on Iran, the authors have this to say:

The worst of all situations would be if Israel were to
take preventive action contrary to the wishes of the
United States, do the job badly, and through militaryaction convince regional and world opinion that Iran
needs nuclear weapons to defend against Israel. In such
a case, U.S.-Israeli relations would suffer, while the
threat from Iran’s nuclear program would increase.
To avert such an outcome, U.S. policymakers should
consider carefully what they would do if they concluded
that Israel was likely to take preventive military
action, especially if they were skeptical that Israel could
be effective. One option would be for the United
States to preempt Israel, so to speak, and act on its
own.
Another option would be to let Israel proceed. A
third option would be to offer a variety of political and
military inducements and guarantees to Israel (including
some kind of extended deterrence guarantee) to
persuade it not to attack Iran. A fourth option would
be for the United States to propose a joint U.S.-Israeli
action, although it is difficult to see what political or
military advantages this would bring the United States.
In any case, the most senior U.S. and Israeli leaders
should consult about such a very delicate issue.

(emphasis mine)

So you have zero problem with another country (Israel) dictating our policies? Why in the name of all that is holy should we endanger our citizens in order to protect the bully of the Middle East?

No other country except the Brits and Australia helped.

Oh, I thought he was bragging about his coalition of the willing and how many countries were supporting the invasion.

Blind allegiance does nobody any good. Especially to a despotic, power-hungry fool. And Bush is such a fool, and he and his cabal need to be brought before the court to answer to charges.

"Bush hater" Is that the best you've got? Ad hominem attacks?

Appeasement-Reply

Your "Policy Paper" is just two author's ideas of what might happen in the land of OZ. It don't mean jack! How the hell is Israel dictating United States policy? Explain that please. Endanger our citizens? I guess 9/11 was an accident and no one was supposed to get hurt or killed. Earth to Michelle, close to 3000 people were killed on that day. The endanger part gets me. I think we are all "endangered" if we let these anti-American countries have their way. Wake up and wise up. These Taliban and Iranian A-holes are trying to kill us all. No second attacks on the U.S. homeland since 9/11/01, yeah, I'll give President Bush credit for it. Like it or not, IF you are an American citizen, Bush is our President. A few years in the U.S. Military would give you some interesting if not totally different views for your thoughts. Your Bush hating is blinding you. But I do respect your thoughts. Have a good day.

[My god man, would you at least read a bit? And hopefully understand the world you're living in before spewing this stuff? At the absolute minumum Bush chose to let 9/11 happen. Go look it up. Please, do some research before waving that flag. --MJ (ex. Military)]

Appeasement-Reply

MJ (ex-military) I'm willing to read and learn, as long as it's the truth. Show me where to look up what you claim. I hope it's not on some internet site. I spent 30 years all around the world and think I know the world pretty well, thank you. Where's your proof that Bush chose to let 9/11 happen? Eagerly waiting.

Lifer with common sense (?)

It don't mean jack! How the hell is Israel dictating United States policy? Explain that please.

Obviously you have access to the internet tubes so I can assume that you also have the ability to Google "Israel, Iran, AIPAC, military action" the same as I have; this leads me to believe you are being intentionally obtuse.

Patrick Buchanan (no bleeding heart liberal, he) posted the following in an article titled Who's Planning Our Next War? published June 27, 2008:

William Kristol of The Weekly Standard said Sunday a U.S. attack on Iran after the election is more likely should Barack Obama win. Presumably, Bush would trust John McCain to keep Iran nuclear free.

Yet, to start a third war in the Middle East against a nation three times as large as Iraq, and leave it to a new president to fight, would be a daylight hijacking of the congressional war power and a criminally irresponsible act. For Congress alone has the power to authorize war.

Yet Israel is even today pushing Bush into a pre-emptive war with a naked threat to attack Iran itself should Bush refuse the cup.

In April, Israel held a five-day civil defense drill. In June, Israel sent 100 F-15s and F-16s, with refueling tankers and helicopters to pick up downed pilots, toward Greece in a simulated attack, a dress rehearsal for war. The planes flew 1,400 kilometers, the distance to Iran's uranium enrichment facility at Natanz.

Ehud Olmert came home from a June meeting with Bush to tell Israelis: "We reached agreement on the need to take care of the Iranian threat. ... I left with a lot less question marks regarding the means, the timetable restrictions and American resoluteness. ...

"George Bush understands the severity of the Iranian threat and the need to vanquish it, and intends to act on the matter before the end of his term. ... The Iranian problem requires urgent attention, and I see no reason to delay this just because there will be a new president in the White House seven and a half months from now."

Buchanan goes on to say:

If Bush is discussing war on Iran with Ehud Olmert, why is he not discussing it with Congress or the nation?

While you are well within your rights to defend BushCo no matter how odious, underhanded, secretive and opportunistic they may be; as well as deride every person who would attempt to speak out against them as "Bush haters"-however, it is my understanding that members of the military take an oath to protect our country "against all enemies...foreign and domestic and that would include members of the executive branch that would collude with other governments to the detriment of their own citizens. And that my friend, ENDANGERS the citizens because it is the citizens that will suffer the inevitable blowback.

A few years in the U.S. Military would give you some interesting if not totally different views for your thoughts.

What on earth makes you think I have no military service? You have no idea what would or wouldn't give me totally different views...although I will allow that I have not been indoctrinated to embrace blind allegiance which seems to be one of your criteria for acceptable views.

Earth to Lifer: there are Iranians that aren't A-holes or out to kill you; that seek only to raise their children and give them a better world than they know....just the same as there are US citizens that don't have a myopic world view who want the same for their children.

And you are just a militarist

You don't seem to be able to spell common sense. Perhaps you should read the essays by Tom Paine under the title "Common Sense."

I do hate Bush, and I do stand by my statements. He is Hitler, you are a Wehrmacht soldier, and Afghanistan is Czechoslovakia. The Taliban were not and are not al Qaeda. And you goofs still haven't caught Osama.

Hating a fascist in power

Military Lifer,

One does not have to be a "Bush hater" (or lover) to be against lying, cheating, stealing, and murder. The crimes that have now been committed are much larger than someone just "hating" a fascist in power.

You might want to do further research on just how eerily similar Bush and Hitler's actions are. If you do, you'll probably no longer spew phrases like, "the United States was the only country that had the gonads..."

Maybe you should re-read of the US Constitution as well?

MJ

--
M.J. Taylor
Publisher
from Reason to Freedom

Appeasement-Reply

Mr. M.J.Taylor, please give some specifics on the lying, cheating, stealing murder, and other "larger" crimes. No hear-say or internet garbage please. If it was true, I'm sure the American people would take action and remove the person you are refering to.
Similar actions of President Bush and Hitler? Research showes nothing similar. Last time I read history, Hitler invaded Europe, Africa and other countries, killed innocents in wide scale factories and tried to sell off the German as the supreme superman. The U.S.didn't buy it and he killed himself in a bunker because he couldn't face surrender. How do you compair Bush to that?
As for the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights, I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution for over 30 years both as an enlisted and officer. I also have a copy of both on my wall. I think I know what it says and I sleep good at night knowing I did my duty.
Did you serve? Did you do your duty?
The United Nations should have been the first to take action against Iraq and it's leader after Saddam kept giving the world the middle finger on agreements he signed after the Gulf War. The U.N. did nothing. Saddam boasted of weapons of mass destruction, which was his poker face play. The United States and many other contries played his poker face, without UN approval. He lost!! Point is - - the UN is a waste of time and money, anti-American and run by corrupt phony third world politicians who treat their subjects as dirt and only want to fill their own pockets. Many of whom were paid by Saddam. Facts that have already been proven.

Fascist - "A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion." [Robert O. Paxton, "The Anatomy of Fascism," 2004]

In my humble opinion, I don't think President Bush fits the above description. But if your a Bush hater and you think it does, then you are entitled to you opinion.

Bush the torturer, mass murderer, Hitler

You and the other militarists want to get away with torturing people in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in Abu Ghraib, Iraq, and elsewhere in the world. You have done away with habeas corpus. You have committed mass murder all over Afghanistan, Iraq, and through your proxies in Somalia. You disgust me.

The flag you worship is the flag of tyranny and injustice. It is burned by decent men and women all over the world as a symbol of oppression. You ought to be ashamed of yourself, your military career, and the evil work you have done to support an unconstitutional and un-elected regime of tyranny.

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